2014-08-14 10:23:00
#1
How do you think about Chinese mold steel material?
Some people complain the quality is not good,but more and more people replace Germany-Japanese brand material with Chinese material because it’s more competitive……What’s your opinion?
2014-08-14 14:43:00
Top #2
Chinese st steel toolsteel 2316 has 1 to 2 % Cr content, where German st steel 2316 has 15 to 16 % Cr. This alone shows the superiority of the quality of steel German vs Chinese.
I get my moulds made in China but under my conditions as there are too many shortcuts that are made and this is where the Chinese fail in giving good service/product.
regards,
Andrew
I get my moulds made in China but under my conditions as there are too many shortcuts that are made and this is where the Chinese fail in giving good service/product.
regards,
Andrew
2014-08-14 17:41:00
Top #3
Hello. I´m glad that you are asking. I´m working with my customer UFI Filters and they made most of their molds in China. And when molds came to Italy they tune it in their tool shop, because many details was wrong. But price was still lower then for tools from Germany.
So, if you have your own tool shop it´s possible to do it like this. OR there is a easy way.
Go to CZECH REPUBLIC and you will find that you molds are here in top quality for same price like in China. Pavel
So, if you have your own tool shop it´s possible to do it like this. OR there is a easy way.
Go to CZECH REPUBLIC and you will find that you molds are here in top quality for same price like in China. Pavel
2014-08-14 20:18:00
Top #4
I agree with Andrew.
Lot of time when I do a check of the Chinese steel content it was very rare matched with the steel grade. If the quality were OK, than it was imported steel from Europe or Japan.
Regards: Zoltan
Lot of time when I do a check of the Chinese steel content it was very rare matched with the steel grade. If the quality were OK, than it was imported steel from Europe or Japan.
Regards: Zoltan
2014-08-14 23:16:00
Top #5
I have been very disappointed with the quality of Chinese "EQUIVALENT" steel. We purchased a mold with the written guarantee that it would be produced from Udelholm S-7. The mold arrived and looked good. However, after several months of run time, large inserts started to crack. After replacing several of these large blocks, I sent a cracked one for analysis. The report came back stating that they could not identify the steel but that it definitely was not S-7 or any close equivalent.
This goes to my major concern with dealing with off shore tooling. If the communication and trust is not there, you will end up spending as much as you would close to home and probably a lot more in total costs. Most important, you will not meet your quality or quantity goals.
Norman Akens
This goes to my major concern with dealing with off shore tooling. If the communication and trust is not there, you will end up spending as much as you would close to home and probably a lot more in total costs. Most important, you will not meet your quality or quantity goals.
Norman Akens
2014-08-15 01:40:00
Top #6
Hello,Pavel, Thanks a lot for your comments and sharing!
It seems CZECH molds is more competitive than China? At the same time,Czech is also a big market of Chinese mold steel, we've been exporting our material to CZECH with a considerable quantity each year!
It seems CZECH molds is more competitive than China? At the same time,Czech is also a big market of Chinese mold steel, we've been exporting our material to CZECH with a considerable quantity each year!
2014-08-15 04:14:00
Top #7
Hi,Andrew,thanks a lot for your comments and sharing!
How can 1.2316 made to 1-2% Cr content?! If you bought these material,you should go to complain to The Embassy because that's fake material! Fortunately most of chinese tool steel suppliers are reliable,would not cheat you on chemicals.
How can 1.2316 made to 1-2% Cr content?! If you bought these material,you should go to complain to The Embassy because that's fake material! Fortunately most of chinese tool steel suppliers are reliable,would not cheat you on chemicals.
2022-07-15 17:05:11
Top #8
For sure it is not easy to get high quality steel with low price. Everyone should know this.
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